Prophets & messengers

To the law and the testimony is they speak not according to this there is not light in them? Why? Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. Isaiah 8:20 & Revelation 22:14. 

While Daniel was in vision he describes it this way: Daniel 10:17 For how can the servant of this my lord talk with this my lord? for as for me, straightway there remained no strength in me, neither is there breath left in me. 10:18 Then there came again and touched me [one] like the appearance of a man, and he strengthened me, 10:19 And said, O man greatly beloved, fear not: peace [be] unto thee, be strong, yea, be strong. And when he had spoken unto me, I was strengthened, and said, Let my lord speak; for thou hast strengthened me.

The most profound period of time had arrived in this earth’s history and was born in the USA. The reason being that the constitution of the US made it favourable to be a sanctuary for Protestantism and the birth place of a commandment keeping people. Amos  3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. Had the Lord remained silent through all this time from the prophets of the New Testament and so the guidance was to end there? I believe not so, just as there are books and their prophets that guided God’s people for that time and no longer exist so the Lord has directed the faithful with encouragement throughout time. An example of this, is the Bible mentions book of Shemaiah the prophet, the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite, and in the visions of Iddo the seer 2 Chronicles 9:29. There were many other books and prophecies for that particular time beside those I have just mentioned. I am sure there were books and prophecies the waldenses held through the dark ages.

Along the way especially when a major event was occuring there would be false prophets and true prophets. So how to detect who is who?  How would we tell that this is a true prophet? This is a very important question and the time we are about to enter in, with the coming both of Christ and the antichrist, makes our understanding of this crucial.  There is a simple answer which everyone from the past till the coming of Lucifer can be tested by. Isaiah  8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.

The test of truth is that which God Himself wrote on tables of stone- the 10 commandments. Revelation  22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. Are they commandment keepers? Do they keep all the law including the Sabbath? Do they present the true gospel or a presumptuous gospel of grace without a change in character? Are they presenting messengers from the dead? If so be clear they are the angels of the enemy.

Of particular importance was the forming of God’s church worldwide to prepare a people for His second coming. They were commandment keepers and it is distinguished in a name. 

A vision was given to a woman at the age of 17, in December 1844, the year that ended the 2300 year period of Daniel 8:14. It was one of many visions that this woman would receive with great specification, involving many messages that would guide a commandment keeping church. It is interesting to note that the first vision included mention of the 144,000.  ‘The 144,000 were all sealed, and perfectly united. On their foreheads was written, “God, New Jerusalem,” and a glorious star containing Jesus’ new name.’ Great attention is given in Revelation to this group- the one who would be on earth at the true coming of Christ ready for translation. There are messages to meet this end time group who will go through a time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation. Most important was an understanding of the gospel which is that which saves a person to eternal life. This was made plain, as was the story of Jesus over the years of her life. 

Suppose we are about to start upon a voyage. The owner of the vessel gives us a book of directions, telling us that it contains instructions sufficient for our whole journey, and that if we will heed them, we shall reach in safety our port of destination. Setting sail we open our book to learn its contents. We find that its author lays down general principles to govern us in our voyage, and instructs us as far as practicable, touching the various contingencies that may arise, till the end; but he also tells us that the latter part of our journey will be especially perilous; that the features of the coast are ever changing by reason of quicksands and tempests; “but for this part of the journey,” says he, “I have provided you a pilot, who will meet you, and give you such directions as the surrounding circumstances and dangers may require; and to him you must give heed.” With these directions we reach the perilous time specified, and the pilot, according to promise, appears. But some of the crew, as he offers his services, rise up against him. “We have the original book of directions,” say they, “and that is enough for us. We stand upon that, and that alone; we want nothing of you.” Who now heed that original book of directions? those who reject the pilot, or those who receive him, as that book instructs them? Judge ye. {January 13, 1863 JWe, ARSH 52.12} 

What would a person experience in Vision?: 

Sometimes while I was in vision, my friends would approach me, and exclaim, “Why, she does not breathe!” Placing a mirror before my lips, they found that no moisture gathered on the glass. It was while there was no sign of any breathing that I kept talking of the things that were being presented before me. These messages were thus given to substantiate the faith of all, that in these last days we might have confidence in the Spirit of Prophecy. {3SM 38.5}  

“June 28, 1857, I saw Sister White in vision for the first time. I was an unbeliever in the visions; but one circumstance among others that I might mention convinced me that her visions were of God. To satisfy my mind as to whether she breathed or not, I first put my hand on her chest sufficiently long to know that there was no more heaving of the lungs than there would have been had she been a corpse. I then took my hand and placed it over her mouth, pinching her nostrils between by thumb and forefinger, so that it was impossible for her to exhale or inhale air, even if she had desired to do so. I held her thus with my hand about ten minutes, long enough for her to suffocate under ordinary circumstances; she was not in the least affected by this ordeal. Since witnessing this wonderful phenomenon, I have not once been inclined to doubt the divine origin of her visions.” Signed, “D. T. Bourdeau, Battle Creek, Mich., Feb. 4, 1891.” {1905 JNL, GSAM 210.2}

What was the vision like?:

As inquiries are frequently made as to my state in vision, and after I come out, I would say that when the Lord sees fit to give a vision, I am taken into the presence of Jesus and angels, and am entirely lost to earthly things. I can see no farther than the angel directs me. My attention is often directed to scenes transpiring upon earth. {1SM 36.3}
At times I am carried far ahead into the future and shown what is to take place. Then again I am shown things as they have occurred in the past. After I come out of vision I do not at once remember all that I have seen, and the matter is not so clear before me until I write, then the scene rises before me as was presented in vision, and I can write with freedom.

Her writing were more than 40 books and 5000 periodical articles that include

  • Theology
  • Education
  • Health reform
  • Prophecies

The prophet Daniel describes being exhausted by his time in vision Daniel 10:8 Therefore I was left alone, and saw this great vision, and there remained no strength in me: for my comeliness was turned in me into corruption, and I retained no strength. 

While prayer was offered for me, that the Lord would give me strength and courage to bear the message, the thick darkness that had encompassed me rolled back, and a sudden light came upon me. Something that seemed to me like a ball of fire struck me right over the heart. My strength was taken away, and I fell to the floor. I seemed to be in the presence of the angels. One of these holy beings again repeated the words, “Make known to others what I have revealed to you.” {CET 67.2}

This is either of God or satan: God is either teaching His church, reproving their wrongs and strengthening their faith, or He is not. This work is of God, or it is not. God does nothing in partnership with Satan. My work . . . bears the stamp of God or the stamp of the enemy. There is no halfway work in the matter. The Testimonies are of the Spirit of God, or of the devil. As the Lord has manifested Himself through the Spirit of prophecy, past, present, and future have passed before me. I have been shown faces that I had never seen, and years afterward I knew them when I saw them. I have been aroused from my sleep with a vivid sense of subjects previously presented to my mind; and I have written, at midnight, letters that have gone across the continent and, arriving at a crisis, have saved great disaster to the cause of God. This has been my work for many years. A power has impelled me to reprove and rebuke wrongs that I had not thought of. Is this work from above or from beneath.


The Randolph Vision.

Nobodys fault but mine was originally a slide guitar piece making it a more difficult piece to play clean

Sister Ellen was taken off in vision with extraordinary manifestations, and continued talking in vision with a clear voice, which could be distinctly understood by all present, until about sundown. Sargent, Robbins, and French were much exasperated, as well as excited, to hear Sister Ellen talk in vision, which they declared was of the devil; they exhausted all their influence and bodily strength to destroy the effect of the vision. They would unite in singing very loud, and then alternately would talk and read from the Bible in a loud voice, in order that Ellen might not be heard, until their strength was exhausted, and their hands would shake so they could not read from the Bible, but amidst all this confusion and noise, Ellen’s clear and shrill voice, as she talked in vision, was distinctly heard by all present.
The opposition of these men continued as long as they could talk and sing, notwithstanding some of their own friends rebuked them, and requested them to stop. But said Robbins, ‘You are bowed to an idol: you are worshiping a golden calf.’ {1905 JNL, GSAM 242.2}
“Mr. Thayer, the owner of the house, was not fully satisfied that her vision was of the devil, as Robbins declared it to be. He wanted it tested in some way. He had heard that visions of Satanic power were arrested by opening the Bible and laying it on the person in vision, and asked Sargent if he would test it in that way, which he declined to do. Then Mr. Thayer took a heavy, large quarto family Bible which was lying on the table, and seldom used, opened it, and laid it open upon the breast of Ellen while in vision, as she was then inclined backward against the wall in the corner of the room. Immediately after the Bible was laid upon her, she arose upon her feet, and walked into the middle of the room, with the Bible open in one hand, and lifted up as high as she could reach, and with her eyes steadily looking upward, declared in a solemn manner, ‘The inspired testimony from God,’ or words of the same import. And then, while the Bible was extended in one hand, and her eyes looking upward, and not on the Bible, she continued for a long time to turn over the leaves with her other hand, and place her finger upon certain passages, and correctly utter their words with a solemn voice. Many present looked at the passages where her finger was pointed, to see if she spoke them correctly, for her eyes at the same time were looking upward. Some of the passages referred to were judgments against the wicked and blasphemers; and others were admonitions and instructions relative to our present condition. {1905 JNL, GSAM 243.1}

Her Longest Vision, over Six Hours

“In this state she continued all the afternoon until near sunset, when she came out of vision. When Ellen arose in vision upon her feet, with the heavy open Bible in her hand, and walked the room, uttering the passage of Scripture, Sargent, Robbins, and French were silenced. For the remainder of the time they were troubled, with many others; but they shut their eyes, and braved it out without making any acknowledgment of their feelings.” 3 {1905 JNL, GSAM 243.2}